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« Ответ #20 : 20 Август 2008, 14:42:24 »

http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/172572
US left isolated over Nato plans to maintain relations with Russia
The United States has been left diplomatically isolated after European members of NATO moved to reject an American proposal to scale back ties with Moscow following Russia's invasion of Georgia.

By Adrian Blomfield in Tbilisi
Last Updated: 3:39PM BST 19 Aug 2008

The Telegraph's Group Foreign Editor explains that it's not just Georgia who have been alarmed by Russia's actions. ; http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1488655367/bctid1738801465 http://www.brightcove.com/channel.jsp?channel=1139053637
US diplomats attending an emergency NATO summit in Brussels had called on the alliance to suspend ministerial meetings with Russia, held twice a year, as a way of demonstrating the West's disapproval of the war.

But other members of the alliance, including Britain, rejected the plan, saying that it would be foolish to isolate Russia. Instead diplomats released their strongly-worded statement, stopping short of concrete action, at least for now.

David Miliband, the foreign secretary, implicitly criticized Washington's proposal to suspend the Nato-Russia council, established six-years ago to improve dialogue between Moscow and the West, as short-sighted.

"I am not one that believes that isolating Russia is the right answer to its misdemeanours," he said. "I think the right answer is hard-headed dialogue." A French diplomat, however, signaled that Nato was getting fed up with Russia's failure to carry out repeated pledges to withdraw its troops from Georgian territory and warned that the time could come for a re-examination of the West's ties with Moscow.

"We are at risk of entering, if there is not a very rapid evolution on the ground, into a relationship which will be of a different nature to what it was until now," he said.

Russia, however, seemed unfazed by the mounting criticism. Its troops smashed their way into the Black Sea port of Poti, blockaded it and then took 22 Georgian servicemen prisoner.

Russian forces last week used explosives to sink Georgian naval ships and coastguard vessels in the port as part of what appears to be a plan to damage the country's civilian and military infrastructure.

Russia has brought transport and the passage of goods, including oil bound for the West, to a halt by blowing up an important railway bridge, closing down the country's main highway and attempting to bomb a crucial BP pipeline.

There was also little sign of a Russian military withdrawal from other towns in undisputed Georgian territory where, far from pulling out, troops have been digging trenches and building concrete barricades.

Russia yesterday warned that its withdrawal was being hampered by Georgia's refusal to abide by the terms of a French-brokered ceasefire to pull back its own forces to positions held before the fighting erupted.

"Such actions seriously complicate the general situation and impede the withdrawal process," Gen Anatoly Nogovitsyn said.

With Russia in control of much of the country, there has been little sign of Georgian forces attempting to return to the positions they fled after suffering a crushing victory on the battlefield.

Russian troops, on the other hand, have taken advantage of the truce to advance within 25 miles of the Georgian capital Tbilisi.

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Georgian provocation en route 2.
« Ответ #21 : 21 Август 2008, 01:54:24 »
http://news.mail.ru/politics/1960092
Власти Грузии готовят на ближайшие дни, возможно, на четверг, крупномасштабную провокацию. Неназванный источник в российской военной разведке поведал всем крупным российским информагентствам, что подразделения грузинского оборонного ведомства предполагают использовать для этого останки оставшихся в ходе боевых действий военнослужащих.

«Над останками проводится соответствующая работа, чтобы якобы документально показать количество жертв среди мирного населения и издевательства и жестокость российских военнослужащих, — подчеркнул он. — Сегодня из района Гори в Тбилиси вышли три рефрижератора, доверху загруженные останками, которые в течение последних дней собирались грузинскими подразделениями». По его словам, для хранения тел погибших использовался лед, произведенный заводом «Кока-кола» близ Гори.

Насторожил представителя военной разведки и тот факт, что до сих пор грузинская сторона практически не производила захоронений погибших, хотя российскими миротворцами и югоосетинскими властями Грузии за эти дни были переданы многочисленные останки военнослужащих. «Хотелось бы предупредить, что эти останки при их обнаружении фиксировались фото- и видеосъемкой, — сказал источник РИА “Новости”. — Если грузинской стороной они будут представлены в другом виде, это может весьма больно ударить по организаторам провокации».


Here is said that "unnamed source" in GRU informed that Georgian authorities plan big provocation using the corpses of the Georgian servicpeople. Three refregerator trucks full of them went out of Gori today (20.08.08) to Tbilisi. The Georgian plan is, according to this "source" is to perform some work over the corpses so that they could be depicted as civilians and victims of the Russian military violence.They will be filmed and broadcasted widely.

(I hope that this is just some piece of journalists rave so I will remove this message  in several days if nothing that can relate to what was announced will happen).

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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
« Ответ #23 : 24 Август 2008, 19:17:22 »
Люди мира. Вас обманывают! Мировые средства массово
Люди мира. Вас обманывают! Мировые средства массовой информации ведут пропаганду ложной информации. Россия НЕ НАПАДАЛА НА Грузию! 07.08.2008 в 22:00 Грузия напала на Южную Осетию. В 3:30 08.08.2008 в город Цхинвали вошли танки грузинских войск. Весь день продолжался артиллерийский обстрел, велись бои с использованием танков и тяжёлой боевой техники, как против осетинских войск, так и против мирных жителей. Уже погибло 2000 гражданских людей. Российские миротворцы прибыли в Южную Осетию вечером 08.08.2008 для урегулирования конфликта и наведения мира в республике и защиты российских граждан проживающих на территории Южной Осетии. Грузия напала на Южную Осетию на кануне олимпиады, это верх жестокости и цинизма. Доказательства и видео-материалы смотрите на : http://www.rian.ru/ http://www.vesti.ru/news http://news.ntv.ru/ http://www.ren-tv.com/ http://www.newsru.com/ http://osinform.ru  http://osradio.ru  http://www.osradio.info  http://www.srn.su/ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI . СКАЖЕМ НЕТ ВОЙНЕ!!!

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People of the world! You are being deceived! Media has started a huge propaganda war using lies. Russia DID NOT ATTACK Georgia! At 22:00 on 07.08.2008 Georgia attacked South Ossetia. At 3:30 on 08.08.2008 Georgian tanks entered the city of Tskhinvali. Their artillery was bombarding the city all day long; tanks and heavy combat weapons were used both against Ossetic soldiers and civilians (2000 civilians were killed). The Russian peacekeepers arrived to South Ossetia in the evening of 08.08.2008 in order to resolve the conflict, provide peace and to protect Russian citizens living on the territory of South Ossetia. Georgia attacked South Ossetia just before the Olympics started which is the top of cruelty and cynicism. Evidence and video materials available:
 http://www.rian.ru/ http://www.vesti.ru/news http://news.ntv.ru/ http://www.ren-tv.com/ http://www.newsru.com/ http://osinform.ru  http://osradio.ru  http://www.osradio.info  http://www.srn.su/ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI Let's say NO to WAR!!!

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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
« Ответ #24 : 24 Август 2008, 19:17:59 »
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Pueblos de todos los países! Os están mintiendo!Los medios de comunicación propagandan información falsa. Rusia NO ATACÓ Georgia! El 07.08.2008 a las 22:00 Georgia atacó Osetia del Sur. A las 3:30 del 08.08.2008 los tanques del ejército georgiano entraron en la ciudad de Tsjinvali. El bombardeo duró toda la noche, hubo ataques tanto contra el ejército de Osetia como contra los habitantes civiles haciendo uso de tanques y armamentos pesados. 2000 personas civiles han muerto ya. Las tropas de paz rusas llegaron a Osetia del Sur el 08.08.2008 por la tarde para sofocar el conflicto e imponer paz en la república, y defender a los ciudadanos rusos que vivían en el territorio de Osetia del Sur. Georgia atacó Osetia del Sur en víspera del comienzo de los Juegos Olímpicos, cima de crueldad y cinismo. Para ver las pruebas mira los siguientes enlaces: http://www.vesti.ru/news http://news.ntv.ru/ http://www.ren-tv.com/ http://www.newsru.com/ http://osinform.ru  http://osradio.ru  http://www.osradio.info  http://www.srn.su/ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI  Digamos NO a la GUERRA!

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Die weltweiten Massenmedien führen einen Informationskrieg gegen Russland.
Russland hatte Georgien nicht angegriffen! Am 7. 08. 08 wurde gegen Süd Ossetien, die seit Jahren unter russischem Mandat steht, eine georgische Kriegsoffensive gestartet. Am 8. August um 3.30 nachts sind Panzer der georgischen Armee in die Süd Ossetische Hauptstadt Zhinvalli einmarschiert. Tag darauf war die komplette Stadt zerstört, dabei sind über 2000 Zivilisten ums Leben gekommen. Die Menschen wurden auf den Strassen regelrecht geschlachtet! Frauen und Kinder wurden von Panzer überfahren. In die Keller von Häuser, wo sich Menschen von Luftangriffen versteckt hatten, wurden Granaten geschmissen! Ein Völkermord wurde von der georgischen Regierung ausgeübt!
Die russischen Friedenstruppen waren erst gegen Abend in der fast komplett zerstörten Stadt angekommen. Was die Massenmedien verbreiten entspricht nicht der Wahrheit! Tausende von Flüchtlingen wurden in den nahliegenden russischen Städten aufgenommen. Es gibt sehr viele Verletzte, die dringend medizinische Hilfe benötigen! Für dieses Verbrechen gegen alle Menschenrechte muss die georgische Regierung zur Verantwortung gezogen werden! Informieren sie sich bitte über die tatsächliche Situation in der Konfliktregion!!! http://www.rian.ru/ http://www.vesti.ru/news http://news.ntv.ru/ http://www.ren-tv.com/ http://www.newsru.com/ http://osinform.ru  http://osradio.ru  http://www.osradio.info  http://www.srn.su/ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSIXIwGLhI Lassen Sie sich nicht in die Irre führen!

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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
« Ответ #26 : 28 Август 2008, 13:42:16 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziAkHOXxMoM ALEX JONES - wellknown journalist - about USAN and some european corrupted media coverage of the Georgian agression.

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Putin's interview to CNN
« Ответ #27 : 29 Август 2008, 02:09:10 »

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Shameful Reuters fakes debunked!
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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
« Ответ #30 : 31 Август 2008, 17:04:32 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36moUAiOBRw  Russia's Churkin reply to US representative in UN!
The MUSTSEE!

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W. Engdahl. The puppet masters behind Georgia President Saakashvili
« Ответ #31 : 01 Сентябрь 2008, 00:47:58 »
The puppet masters behind Georgia President Saakashvili
Online Journal 31 agosto 2008

The controversy over the Georgian surprise military attacks on South Ossetia and Abkhazia on 8.8.08 makes a closer look at the controversial Georgian President and his puppet masters important. An examination shows 41-year-old Mikheil Saakashvili to be a ruthless and corrupt totalitarian who is tied to not only the US NATO establishment, but also to the Israeli military and intelligence establishment.

The famous ‘Rose Revolution of November 2003 that forced the ageing Edouard Shevardnadze from power and swept the then 36-year-old US university graduate into power was run and financed by the US State Department, the Soros Foundations, and agencies tied to the Pentagon and US intelligence community.

Mikheil Saakashvili was deliberately placed in power in one of the most sophisticated US regime change operations, using ostensibly private NGOs (non-governmental organizations) to create an atmosphere of popular protest against the existing regime of former Soviet Foreign Minister Edouard Shevardnadze, who was no longer useful to Washington when he began to make a deal with Moscow over energy pipelines and privatizations.

Saakashvili was brought to power in a US-engineered coup run on the ground by US-funded NGOs, in an application of a new method of US destabilization of regimes it considered hostile to its foreign policy agenda. The November 24, 2003, Wall Street Journal explicitly credited the toppling of Shevardnadze’s regime to the operations of “a raft of non-governmental organizations . . . supported by American and other Western foundations.” These NGOs, said the Journal, had “spawned a class of young, English-speaking intellectuals hungry for pro-Western reforms” who were instrumental laying the groundwork for a bloodless coup.

Coup by NGO

But there is more. The NGOs were coordinated by the US Ambassador to Georgia, Richard Miles, who had just arrived in Tbilisi fresh from success in orchestrating the CIA-backed toppling of Slobodan Milosevic in Belgrade, using the same NGOs. Miles, who is believed to be an undercover intelligence specialist, supervised the Saakashvili coup.

It involved US billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Georgia Foundation. It involved the Washington-based Freedom House whose chairman was former CIA chief James Woolsey. It involved generous financing from the US Congress-financed National Endowment for Democracy, an agency created by Ronald Reagan in the 1980s to “do privately what the CIA used to do,” namely coups against regimes the US government finds unfriendly.

George Soros’ foundations have been forced to leave numerous eastern European countries, including Russia, as well as China after the 1989 student Tiananmen Square uprising. Soros is also the financier together with the US State Department of Human Rights Watch, a US-based and run propaganda arm of the entire NGO apparatus of regime coups such as Georgia and Ukraine’s 2004 Orange Revolution. Some analysts believe Soros is a high-level operative of the US State Department or intelligence services using his private foundations as cover.

The US State Department funded the Georgia Liberty Institute headed by Saakashvili, the US approved candidate to succeed the no-longer cooperative Shevardnadze. The Liberty Institute in turn created “Kmara!” which translates to “Enough!” According to a BBC report at the time, Kmara! was organized in the spring of 2003, when Saakashvili along with hand-picked Georgia student activists were paid by the Soros Foundation to go to Belgrade to learn from the US-financed Otpor activists that toppled Milosevic. They were trained in Gene Sharp’s “non-violence as a method of warfare” by the Belgrade Center for Nonviolent Resistance.
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Voller Text des Putins Interview an T. Roth (German)
« Ответ #32 : 01 Сентябрь 2008, 01:47:48 »
Das ARD-Interview mit Putin vom 29.08.2008 (unzensiert)

kursive Stellen wurden von ARD zensiert.

Samstag, 30. August 2008

Thomas Roth: Herr Ministerpräsident, nach der Eskalation in Georgien sieht das Bild in der internationalen Öffentlichkeit so aus – damit meine ich Politik, aber auch Presse: Russland gegen den Rest der Welt. Warum haben Sie Ihr Land mit Gewalt in diese Situation getrieben?
Wladimir Putin: Was meinen Sie, wer hat den Krieg begonnen?
Thomas Roth: Der letzte Auslöser war der georgische Angriff auf Zchinwali
Wladimir Putin: [Ich] Danke Ihnen für diese Antwort. So ist es auch, das ist die Wahrheit. Wir werden dieses Thema später ausführlicher erörtern. Ich möchte nur anmerken, dass wir diese Situation nicht herbeigeführt haben.
Wladimir Putin: Ich bin überzeugt, dass das Ansehen eines jeden Landes, das im Stande ist, das Leben und die Würde der Bürger zu verteidigen, eines Landes, das eine unabhängige Außenpolitik betreiben kann, dass das Ansehen eines solchen Landes mittel- oder langfristig steigen wird. Umgekehrt: Das Ansehen der Länder, die in der Regel die Interessen anderer Staaten bedienen, die die eigenen nationalen Interessen vernachlässigen – unabhängig davon, wie sie das auch erklären mögen –, wird sinken.
Roth: Sie haben die Frage trotzdem noch nicht beantwortet, warum Sie die Isolation ihres ganzen Landes riskiert haben…
Putin: Ich dachte, geantwortet zu haben, aber wenn sie zusätzliche Erklärungen brauchen, das mache ich. Unser Land, das die Würde und den Stolz unserer Bürger verteidigen kann, und die außenpolitischen Verpflichtungen im Rahmen der Friedensstiftung erfüllen kann, wird nicht in Isolation geraten, ungeachtet dessen was unsere Partner in Europa und USA im Rahmen ihres Blockdenkens sagen. Mit Europa und den USA endet die Welt nicht. Und im Gegenteil, ich möchte es nochmal betonen: Wenn Staaten ihre eigene nationale Interessen vernachlässigen, um außenpolitische Interessen anderer Staaten zu bedienen, dann wird die Autorität dieser Länder – unabhängig davon, wie sie das auch erklären mögen –, nach und nach sinken. D.h. wenn die europäischen Staaten die außenpolitischen Interessen der USA bedienen wollen, dann werden sie, aus meiner Sicht, nichts dabei gewinnen.
Jetzt reden wir mal über unsere internationalen rechtlichen Verpflichtungen. Nach internationalen Verträgen haben die russischen Friedenstifter die Pflicht, die zivile Bevölkerung von Südossetien zu verteidigen. Und jetzt denken wir mal an 1995 (Bosnien). Und wie ich uns Sie gut wissen, haben sich die europäischen Friedensstifter, in dem Fall repräsentiert durch niederländische Streitkräfte, nicht in den Konflikt eingemischt und haben einer Seite damit erlaubt, einen ganzen Ort zu vernichten. Hunderte wurden getötet und verletzt. Das Problem und die Tragödie von Srebrenica ist in Europa sehr bekannt. Wollten Sie, dass wir auch so verfahren? Dass wir uns zurückgezogen hätten und den georgischen Streitkräften erlaubt hätten, die in Zchinwali lebende Bevölkerung zu vernichten?
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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
« Ответ #33 : 04 Сентябрь 2008, 03:11:56 »
The miscalculation of small nations
Fred Halliday

The Russia-Georgia war emphasises the need for a nuanced understanding of international politics that recognises the autonomy of local agents, says Fred Halliday.

(This article was first published on 24 August 2008)
26 - 08 - 2008

The brief and vicious war between Georgia and Russia over South Ossetia has killed an untold number of people and displaced and traumatised many thousands more; promised a lengthy and abrasive aftermath; postponed even further the prospects of a settlement over this and the region's other territory lost to Georgia's control in the early 1990s, Abkhazia; created new enmities as well as poisoning existing ones; and planted seeds of yet further conflict.


Among openDemocracy's articles on Georgian politics and the region, including the war of August 2008:

Robert Parsons, "Mikheil Saakashvili's bitter victory" (11 January 2008),

Jonathan Wheatley, "Georgia's democratic stalemate" (14 April 2008),

Robert Parsons, "Georgia, Abkhazia, Russia: the war option" (13 May 2008),

Thomas de Waal, "The Russia-Georgia tinderbox" (16 May 2008),

Alexander Rondeli, "Georgia's search for itself" (8 July 2008),

Thomas de Waal, "South Ossetia: the avoidable tragedy" (11 August 2008),

Ghia Nodia, "The war for Georgia: Russia, the west, the future" (12 August 2008),

Donald Rayfield, "The Georgia-Russia conflict: lost territory, found nation" (13 August 2008),

Neal Ascherson, "After the war: recognising reality in Abkhazia and Georgia" (15 August 2008),

George Hewitt, "Abkhazia and South Ossetia: heart of conflict, key to solution" (18 August 2008),

Ivan Krastev, "Russia and the Georgia war: the great-power trap" (19 August 2008).

Plus: openDemocracy's Russia section reports, debates and blogs the Georgia war.


In the wake of the disaster, the urgent need is via an intense effort of humanitarian mobilisation and sensitive diplomacy to assist and protect the civilian victims from its continuing ravages. Beyond that, a survey of the freshly ruined landscape is needed to assess how the region, the continent and the notional "international community" can begin to pick up the pieces. But between the immediate and the strategic, an interim political assessment of this war suggests a lesson that relates both to Georgia itself and to the political leaderships of other local actors (and especially "small nations") who have found themselves - or chosen to be - involved in military contest with bigger neighbours.

The puff of ideology

Where Georgia itself is concerned, the lesson can be summed up in a phrase: pity (and of course help) the Georgians, but condemn their leaders. For if most western governments and commentators have focused on the high politics and historical echoes of the conflict - from Russia's excessive military response to the implications for Georgia's entry into Nato, from the role of the United States to echoes of Czechoslovakia in 1938 and 1968 - less attention than is warranted has been paid to Tbilisi's contribution to the disaster.

In strict terms, the chief responsibility belongs to Georgia's reckless and demagogic president, Mikhail Saakashvili. His precipitous launch of a brutal assault on the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali on the night of 7-8 August 2008 is worse than a crime: it is a terrible blunder. More broadly, however, the responsibility devolves onto the self-inflating nationalist ideology which traps Saakashvili and Georgians who think like him. Here, indeed, is a local manifestation of a universal problem. For while the particular circumstances of the latest Caucasian war have been ably analysed (not least on openDemocracy), it is important to broaden the discussion by exploring the role that the nationalist ideology of Saakashvili's type - with its heady mix of vanity, presumption and miscalculation - has played in the modern world.
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GEORGIA ON  MY MIND
 
The pundits and the press have been sounding off lately about Georgia and "Russian aggression."

So why is Georgia, one of the smallest and poorest nations on earth, so important to the United States? President Bush, like most Americans, could not have located Georgia on a map or named its capital city before this crisis. (He probably still can't). And now we have one Sarah Palin, who would presume to be a heartbeat away from the presidency and who does not know what the Bush Doctrine is, as well as Senator John McCain, who would presume to be Commander-in-Chief and still refers to the Czech Republic as Czechoslovakia, advocating NATO membership for remote Georgia. What this means, my fellow Americans, is that the United States would be treaty-bound to go to war with Russia in the event of Georgia/Russia hostilities. Read the last sentence again and let it sink in.

 The Obama administration will need to completely overhaul US foreign policy to include de facto recognition of Russia's legitimate security needs and recognition of Russia's sphere of influence, including South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Georgia. Only this way can America's own security be assured. The profligate Bush administration has pledged $1 billion to help Georgia recover from its ill-advised invasion of South Ossetia and consequent beating by the Russian army. This arrogant interference of ours will only enrage the Russians and inflame anti-Americanism. It is not in our interest to confront Russia and set off a new arms race costing billions of dollars that we will have to borrow from abroad while increased geopolitical tensions keep energy prices sky high. The only way to meet America's national security needs is to work with Russia to create a neutral, demilitarized buffer zone around the Russian border. Enormous oceans to the east and the west and docile neighbors to the north and south act as America's buffer zone. Helping Russia achieve peace of mind about its security and true American intentions will reap untold benefits for the United States.

The offensive missile batteries in Poland and the Czech Republic need to be withdrawn immediately. The Russians will be more than amenable to a tit-for-tat withdraw of their armed forces from the Western Hemisphere. We need Russian cooperation at the United Nations on a host of issues from nonproliferation to global warming and terrorism. It is not in the interests of the United States to alienate this large and powerful country while sticking up for every thorn in its side. Current American policies towards Russia betray a haughty ignorance of her history and contempt for her people, who approve of Vladimir Putin and the Georgia war.

The United States risks military confrontation with Russia at its peril.

I heard president-to-be Barack Obama say that he has Jay-Z and Ludacris in his iPod. May I suggest a little Shostakovich, Borodin, Rimsky-Korsakov and Tchaikovsky for a glimpse into the Russian psyche and then a meeting with president Medvedev to set this crucial relationship straight.  

                             DANIEL BRUNO SANZ

Daniel Bruno Sanz writes about financial and political affairs.  His areas of expertise include currencies, stock markets, Latin America, Japan and Russia.  In early 2007, he predicted that Obama would win the Democratic primary when polls showed him 20 points behind Senator Clinton.  He also forecast Obama would win 52% of the popular vote and beat the Republican nominee in the general election.  Today he forecasts an Obama victory in 2012.  His

2007 book and other writings are available at DanielBrunoSanz.com.   He is a native of New York City.

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thanks for the nice article, great job!
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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
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Re: Georgian regime atrocities in South Ossetia. Just a tiny piece of evidence.
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